Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Students' Society of McGill University

Students' Society of McGill University was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to keep the article.

I tried incorporating this into the McGill University article and redirecting it, but it keeps getting deleted out of that article and the redirect reverted, so, therfore, here it goes. Non-notable. There is nothing about any college or university's student society which rates a separate article. I have no problem with folding it into the main article, but as long as the creator refuses to allow that to happen, I vote to delete. Rick K 23:47, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

I was elected to that body twice, and I say delete, merging into McGill University (and mentioning the William Shatner University Centre in the process). And its little friends, too (although I don't care so much as to actually list them on VfD myself). This is why articles have sections — or should we have History of McGill University, McGill University Campus and McGill University Hospitals too? — mendel ☎ 00:32, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
- McGill University Health Centre (MUHC) definitely is deserving of an article, as in Canada, University hospitals are *not* creatures of the universities solely, but have massive government interferences. 132.205.15.5 02:57, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  - That may be, but the Students' Society is a seperate entity from the university, and are part of a larger students' movement. Spinboy 03:02, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  - There are articles already on McGill University Health Centre, McGill University Faculty of Law, etc. See Category:McGill University Spinboy 02:34, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Comment: There seems to be a whole category of these with 22 members, an infobox, and no talk page yet at either the category or the article level. Surely there should be some discussion before VfD? No vote as yet. Andrewa 00:50, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- A whole category pretty much entirely the work of User:Spinboy, who wrote this one. It's good that he's consistent and all, but it's not like there's an army of people writing these. Rather, they all got written before one was listed here. — mendel ☎ 03:17, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
  - In my own defense, I didn't write them all, namely McMaster Students Union, University of Victoria Students' Society, and Alma Mater Society. And that's in the same category as this one. I haven't written any in the Category:Swedish students' unions or Category:United Kingdom Students' Unions categories. The latter which has quite a few. Personally, I like the idea and think the articles should remain seperate. And most of the artcles were written before this one was listed here (either by me or someone else.) Spinboy 03:28, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Redirect to McGill University and merge. —No-One Jones ^(m) 00:52, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Merge and redirect. This was the solution with Dartmouth College everything, and it should be the same for McGill. We should be as consistent as possible so as to cut down on the partisanship. Geogre 01:41, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Keep (and no merge) There are plenty of other articles of students' unions, the most numerous in Category:United Kingdom Students' Unions so I don't understand why this one should be merged and the others should not. Spinboy 02:33, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- There are also a thousand Simpsons fancruft articles. Their existence does not mean that there should be a 1001st Simpsons fancruft article. There existing dozens of student union stubs does not mean that student union stubs are somehow more desirable than student union sections in their institution's articles; it means that no-one has got to those yet. — mendel ☎ 03:17, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
  - But it also doesn't mean the ones that aren't stubs and are well thought out can't stay around. I'm not saying that this one is or isn't well thought out. Certainly more work could be put into it. Spinboy 03:31, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Merge and redirect. Put a note on the McGill University Talk page asking them to not to push it back, but to make the decisions about whether it is notable to keep and how much to keep. They are in the best position to judge. If they don't want any of this material about it in the McGill University article, then they should just delete it and at that point the redirect should be deleted too. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 03:01, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Merge back in unless it grows too large. —siro χ o 04:08, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
Keep - SimonP 04:53, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
Merge into McGill University. (Comment: Since the article essentially has only a single author, we can meet GFDL either through redirect or through comment in the edit summary. Rossami (talk) 05:11, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Delete. Gamaliel 05:44, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Keep article on an organisation which is almost 100 years old. The Steve 07:18, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
Merge and redirect - Skysmith 09:42, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Merge and redirect. And make it stay that way. Average Earthman 10:06, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Keep. (no merge). Parent is already large enough. zoney ♣ talk 13:45, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Merge and redirect Frankchn 13:48, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Keep without merge. GRider 18:25, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Delete. Not notable. --Improv 05:34, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Keep. Intrigue 04:22, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Keep it. [[User:Radman1|—RaD Man (talk)]] 06:49, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Keep. I was tempted to vote to merge, but zoney is right: McGill University is large enough. Samaritan 09:23, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Keep. McGill's whatever is notable enough, IMHO. Andre (talk) 21:56, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)

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