Talk:Little Saigon

Scope

Isn't Little Saigon in this article defined to be Vietnamese communities in the US? This article has expanded to communities outside the US and even to communities that are DEFINITELY not considered "Little Saigon" (e.g. the Vietnamese communities in Eastern Europe, who are NOT formed by refugees but by former communist cadres, that are even called "Little Hanoi" instead of "Little Saigon"). Are we going to eventually mention the 5 million people living in Saigon as well?? I think we should either limit ourselves to communities in the US or rename the article to Expatriate Vietnamese communities or something similar. DHN 20:26, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

And I thought I was doing a good job looking and writing up all these up (very much a thankless job at that too).

You'll just be making the article too U.S.-centric in scope. Take a look at Chinatown, Koreatown, and Little India. I've attempted to use the model of Chinatown article on Little Saigon article. There are also many unnamed "Chinatowns" that act and are recognized as Chinatowns, but no mention of the population of Hong Kong or Mainland China were made in those articles.

Thanks for your hard work. As I understand it, Little Saigon has a more subtle meaning than Little Tokyo or Chinatown. First, it was formed by people fleeing Vietnam as refugees after the Vietnam War, who are usually antagonistic towards the government of their home country. Second, it was named Little Saigon instead of Little Hanoi or Little Ho Chi Minh city because most of them came from the South and not other parts of Vietnam. How about moving the information regarding communities outside the US to Viet Kieu? DHN 00:44, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't know. You were so quick in deleting and rewriting the entry for Czech Republic and then making your remarks here, but then you're not so quick to implement your own suggestions.

It seems with the recent creation of Little Hanoi and Little Vietnam articles, we need to reorganize the topic and articles a bit that makes sense to a general reader. The first problem is that using the term Little Saigon to mean 'overseas Vietnamese enclave" is not universally applicable, as in the Eastern European nations. So if there's already a problem in deciding which among the Vietnamese enclaves should and should not be Little Saigons, then the second problem is that we don't have any list from a reputable source on which of these enclaves are called Little Saigon. It feels like we're treading on WP:OR. A very simple standard that could fail a lot of the listed places in this article is whether the location's local newspaper (e.g. Orange County Register) mentions "Little Saigon" to refer to the local Vietnamese enclave (even articles that talk about major efforts to have it named, as in the case of San Jose), or if there is some official decree by the city. Otherwise we should fallback to the Overseas Vietnamese article, or its associated lists that talk about cities with large populations of Vietnamese. yellowtailshark (talk) 22:40, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Length of Article

I think this article is becoming rather lengthy. May I suggest we move the Little Saigon of Orange County into a separate sub-article? I think the scope of this article should be to cover Little Saigons in general; the information on the one in Orange County is rather lengthy. I'm not sure what to make of the long list with short stubs on each Little Saigon. I feel as though that should be moved into a sub-article as well. An example of which is List of named ethnic enclaves in North American cities being a sub-article for Ethnic enclave. Yellowtailshark (talk) 22:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd rather have this article be solely about the one in Orange County and the others in an article called List of Vietnamese enclaves in the United States. It is the first and by far the most popular meaning of "Little Saigon". When you say "Little Saigon", this is usually what is meant. DHN (talk) 23:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Malaysia

The part about Malaysia is very irrelevant to the whole Wikipedia page about Little Saigon and Vietnamese communities in the U.S., as this only talks about Vietnamese refugees and migrants in Malaysia and not permanent life and society of the Vietnamese-American communities. This part needs to be deleted and be moved to an article on Vietnamese boat people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.121.110.245 (talk) 06:45, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Removed irrelevant content

I've removed the additional content added to this article supposedly to "globalize" it. The added content essentially made this a clone of the overseas Vietnamese article. The fact of the matter is there are no communities outside of the United States officially called "Little Saigon"; or if there are, they should be added, not discussed in a general manner. DHN (talk) 19:50, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Change name

This page is about the ethnic regions of the Vietnamese people besides the areas called Little Saigon 2402:800:61B1:74AE:7C93:FF9B:1C17:AA4E (talk) 06:47, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

This talk page has other relevant discussions. I have archived the clutter so editors can see what has already been mentioned. Fettlemap (talk) 16:29, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Little Saigon is by far the most common name for these communities. "Little Hanoi" describes a distinctly different type of community (primarily in Eastern Europe) and could have its own article if there is enough sources referring to it. "Vietnamtown" or "Little Vietnam" are rarely used and are controversial names for these communities in the US and is seen by some in those communities as an effort to whitewash the refugee experience. DHN (talk) 17:21, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

See also

Probably should link Operation Babylift. AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 17:39, 31 March 2023 (UTC)