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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 June 2024
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Please change "12 Jun 1946" to "10 Jun 1946" as the date on which the Italian Republic came into being. This was the date on which the Court of Cessation confirmed the results of the institutional referendum. RomeoJA (talk) 20:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Charliehdb (talk) 13:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Results of the institutional referendum were announced on 10 Jun 1946; see Gazzetta Ufficiale, 20 Jun 1946:
- https://www.gazzettaufficiale.it/do/gazzetta/downloadPdf?dataPubblicazioneGazzetta=19460620&numeroGazzetta=134&tipoSerie=FO&tipoSupplemento=GU&numeroSupplemento=0&estensione=pdf&edizione=90
- The following day, 11 Jun 1946, was proclaimed a public holiday:
- https://www.gazzettaufficiale.it/atto/serie_generale/caricaDettaglioAtto/originario?atto.dataPubblicazioneGazzetta=1946-06-20&atto.codiceRedazionale=046U0002 RomeoJA (talk) 14:07, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not done for now: It doesn't seem quite so clear cut. From what I've looked at, the Court made a preliminary announcement on the 10th, but wasn't affirmed by the Cabinet until the 12th. FULL RULE OF ITALY GIVEN TO PREMIER - HUMBERT SNUBBED – macaddct1984 (talk | contribs) 01:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Biased against Italy
[edit]A lot of this is biased against Italy and written to paint a bad image of the country.
Can we remove all the bad points? 2A0A:EF40:E4A:E101:698A:BD05:47AD:E241 (talk) 16:17, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- If we removed all the bad points, it would be biased towards Italy. It needs to be an appropriate balance of both the good and the bad. See WP:NPOV. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:05, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- take the good with the bad 205.223.223.251 (talk) 17:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- If it's a perfectly neutral article it's very positive, but if it's even a little biased against Italy it would be a very bad thing. JacktheBrown (talk) 17:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- take the good with the bad 205.223.223.251 (talk) 17:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- "A lot of this is biased against Italy and written to paint a bad image of the country." For example? JacktheBrown (talk) 12:29, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 August 2024
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Link the word "Europe" in the first sentence to the Europe continent page. Thank you! Cocane mitch (talk) 02:48, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: per MOS:OVERLINK. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 September 2024
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Add more information about the ethnic groups indigenous to Italian territory and their languages - both recognised, partially recognised and unrecognised. Lllalll2 (talk) 18:17, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ⸺(Random)staplers 18:28, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
'Prime ministre is wrong'
[edit]Can we remove "prime minister" and use the proper word "president of the council"? Prime minister is just wrong because se it has a completely different meaning 93.44.5.84 (talk) 11:00, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 October 2024
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Bobbyiscool123 (talk) 02:10, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Sentence (important)
[edit]I think we should remove the sentence "During the 17th and 18th centuries, Italian economic importance waned significantly." from the first part of the article; why, while the wikilink refers to the whole of Europe, is this sentence only present on the Italy page and not, for example, on the Spain, France, England, and Netherlands pages? JacktheBrown (talk) 18:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- It should be either removed or rewritten – there was no "Italy" in an economic sense until 1861, and there's apparently no consensus that there ever was a General Crisis (European nations were expanding rapidly in the Americas, Britain, Holland and Portugal were busy taking over control of most of the Far East at about that time and probably all becoming much more powerful as a result); nor do I see that the hypothetical crisis was an economic one. The economic significance of the some of the various regional divisions of the Italian peninsula may or may not have waned at that time, that would need to be researched (I know almost nothing about the history of economics, I wouldn't know). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:31, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Cuisine (solved)
[edit]Recently, a user has removed a truthful sentence supported by a very reliable source from the Italy page ([1]), claiming that it's MOS:PEACOCK. If this user is right, the sentence "French cuisine is one of the most widely appreciated gastronomies worldwide." should be removed from the France page (section: France#Cuisine), and not just from the Italy page; since both cuisines are, according to people, among the most renowned in the world, it makes no sense to keep the phrase on the France page and not on the Italy page. JacktheBrown (talk) 17:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- We do not add or keep content in an article because other articles have that content (see WP:OTHERCONTENT). "both cuisines are, according to people, among the most renowned in the world" - you can see the pitfall, you can make that claim about every country, the solutions is not to make subjective proclamations (see MOS:PEACOCK). Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 19:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Solved; see here. JacktheBrown (talk) 13:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Cultural superpower
[edit]@JacktheBrown, regarding this edit: No, the question of whether a country can be considered a cultural superpower is not a matter of "fact or not", but a mere matter of whether the media describes it as such a type of superpower. That the U.S. has the largest economy by nominal GDP is a fact; however, that it has the "most powerful economy", like you put it, is a personal opinion; a subjective conclusion drawn from this fact. Some would argue that China, despite not having the objectively largest economy nominally, has a more "powerful economy" than the U.S. because of higher exports and manufacturing output, higher PPP-adjusted GDP, larger workforce, more patent applications, etc. Everything that cannot be objectively measured, such as an abstract concept like "power", is not a question of "fact or not", but a matter of whether reliable sources have described something as such or not. Maxeto0910 (talk) 13:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
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