Talk:Exsurge Domine

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The result of the VFD can be found here: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Exsurge Domine -- AllyUnion (talk) 02:02, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

== We need a decent overview of the background to this bull, to its reception and a summary of its contents. It was the first Papal condemnation of Luther and Lutherans. --CTSWyneken^(talk) 00:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who actually wrote it?

Was Leo X enough of a theologian to compose this text by himself? If not, who else actually wrote it? -- 85.177.186.9 (talk) 23:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

contents?

does anyone know what the 41 things were? Gailim (talk) 04:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

errors ?

" ...it did specifically demand that Luther retract 41 errors " ooh, so these were errors by whose standards? 77.2.76.128 (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Other condemnations represent new papal interventions on matters that had been freely disputed among Catholic scholars and theologians before that time. For example, Luther's denial of free will after the Fall is censured even though the church father Augustine had taught the same view.[22]"

The Wiki article on Augustine even affirms that his view was in fact endorsed by the catholic church. From his work, City of God, Book 5, "we assert both that God knows all things before they come to pass, and that we do by our free will whatsoever we know and feel to be done by us only because we will it." (The City of God, St. Augustine of Hippo, Translated by Marcus Dods, Hendrickson Publishers, Peabody MA, page 138.)

Therefore, I should delete these sentences entirely for lack of substantial documentation. The citation provided does not a primary source and offers no source of information itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joecym08 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The conception that the Bull "Exurge Domine" was the Bull of Excommunication of Luther is wrong. It merely gave Luther 60 days to recant. The Bull "Decet Romanum pontificem" of 1521 was the Bull of Excommunication. Dgljr5121973 (talk) 04:28, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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confusing sentence

Last sentence of the first paragraph under "Proposition 33":

"However, the declaration Dignitatis Humanae of Vatican II states that "the human person has a right to religious freedom", and that "[t]his freedom means that all men are to be immune from coercion on the part of individuals or of social groups and of any human power, in such wise that no one is to be forced to act in a manner contrary to his own beliefs, whether privately or publicly, whether alone or in association with others, within due limits", seem to have softened."

This is grammatically wrong and confusing - "seem to have softened" doesn't refer to anything else in the sentence. Probably what is meant is something like "This declaration of Vatican II seems to have weakened the idea that proposition 33 is heretical"? Vultur~enwiki (talk) 23:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]