Talk:Adam's apple

A lot of men don't have adam's apples

why do some men have no visible adam's apple? And what difference would it make? I thought these questions might be worth covering in the article.

I think your question is relevant and I hope someone addresses it. I was discussing with a family member recently that it seems like you don't see Adam's apples on men as much anymore. 69.119.207.171 (talk) 06:07, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

It could be genetic and I consider it good, I don't have the apple either and I'm grateful for that, since that thing looks really gross. --†_JuanPa_† (talk) 06:39, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Older

The "sex differences" really needs work. All the references to 'A prominent laryngeal prominence' were actually pretty painful to read, so much so that it actually seems to have been written with tongue in cheek. If so, it's clever, but should probably be changed regardless. --joshua orvis (talk) 17:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I deleted 'WWE Wrestler John Cena has an Adam's apple.' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.196.148 (talk) 02:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

(scientific evidentiary support for the contentions regarding genetic tendency versus hormonal stimulation should be added to this page) There is evidence to support the concept that Laryngeal prominence is the product of both genetic tendency and hormonal stimulation. There are other facial characteristics that are similar in this regard, including glabella prominence, lateral prominence of the ocular orbital rims, and prominences of the mandible and lower margin of the ramus.[janniejdoe]

This page should really redirct to either laryngeal prominence or (a)esophageal protuberance. "Adam's apple" is both colloquial and religously-based. Exploding Boy 22:37, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

"Adam's apple" isn't merely 'colloquial'—several dictionaries have an entry for it, not listed as 'slang' or 'informal'. And what does it matter if it's a "religious" term? Why should "Adam's apple", out of all the other "colloquialisms" on this site, be singled out just because it's religiously based? The vast majority of both religious and non-religious people use the term. - Jacottier 01:12, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Why does this article have a link to itself? Fledchen 13:15, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

I've removed the link, as it's completely pointless.Jude_tlk 13:42, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Do girls have adam's apple?

Fact or Fiction; Girls don't have adam's apple? I have been told that they don't, but have understood all my life that they do, someone please tell me some truth!

I am a woman, 27 years and I have an visible Adam's Apple. It has grown during puberty and the doctors said it is because I have a hormonal imbalance caused by genetics. Many years I was unhappy about this because some people referred to me as a transsexual. I know transsexuals can have this too but I am none. Why are some people so hateful? And even if I were, would this make me a lesser human? Two years ago I had a trachea shave but the doctor couldn't remove all the apple without endangering my vocal cords. Today I still have a small apple though smaller but also a visible scar. Please people, I know other women who are like me out there. We're no monsters but we also must live with the body mother nature gave to us. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.131.239.66 (talk) 11:33, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

The human larynx rests in a frame of cartilage bound by ligaments and muscles. At the front is the thyroid cartilage, creating the lump at the front of the neck, known as the laryngeal prominence, more commonly known as the Adam's apple.

The larynx grows in males and females during puberty. However, the Adam's apple is generally more prominent in adult men than in women or pre-pubescent girls or boys. (The growth of the larynx is the reason for voice cracking in boys and girls during puberty.)

The Adam's apple is the thyroid cartilage. It protrudes more on a man because the larynx grows more, and hence pushes it out. Therefore, both men and women have a thyroid cartilage, but generally it is only visible as an Adam's apple on a man.Jude_tlk 14:38, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

NOTABLE ADAM'S APPLES

Ann Coulter's reference always gets deleted, although there is photographic evidence.

" Notable examples of well-known women with prominent Adam's apples include American actresses Sandra Bullock, Meg Ryan and Kelly Rowan, Miley Cyrus though the best representative of high profile females with rather large Adam's apples would be Italian actress Francesca Neri."

• • • I removed this because it does not have any kind of source of reference. Why is Francesca Neri the most prominent, and who is to judge such a thing? This really doesn't seem fitting of an encyclopedia if someone cannot back it up. --Weevilcat

I would have to disagree with your removal. Noting that some women have adams apples is quite important. It is not 'judging' anything, it's just listing examples. If you want to change 'best representative' to 'good example', that is fine, but to remove it completely is wrong. Ariel. 02:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I also disagree; this should be put back. --137.205.76.219 13:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

PUT IT BACK. Women's lack thereof is an extremely common belief, and links to articles with prominent pictures (Meg, Sandra) are definitely a good thing. Knowledge is power, after all, especially considering the growing presence of transvestites/transsexuals and the popular belief that MTFs are best identified by their Adam's apples. Surely, knowing that (natural) girls get them too, occasionally at least, is useful info. Aadieu (talk) 18:58, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree we need to include references to famous examples like Ann Coulter. I tried to make edits, but there was never any discussion. This Arcadian person just kept changing them. I DID NOT VANDAL though. I DIDN'T MAKE the picture edits. It is a conspiracy by the right wing to conceal her Adam's apple in print despite MUCH photographic evidence.

"It is a conspiracy by the right wing" uh-huh

Please review Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(medicine-related_articles)#Notable_cases. Also, please read Wikipedia:Assume good faith. --Arcadian 02:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Everyone has an adams apple, everyone has a laryngeal prominence. Adult male's are only more pointed and protrude more. Some males have very little ones and look like a female's cartilage. Larynxdude (talk) 21:35, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Notable women with one... 'Inside Edition' host Deborah Norville for sure. I've been saying that for years now! Macshill (talk) 23:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree that this section should be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.199.241.232 (talk) 04:06, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Biological males(those born xy) have adam's apples. Biological females(those born xx) don't. Do some females have adam's apples? Yes, we call them transgender females.

Page move

I think the page should be moved to "Adam's apple" because it is by far most easily recognized name, and should be moved per WP:NAME. It doesn't matter that laryngeal prominence is more formal because it isn't commonly used by non-doctors. There isn't even a page at Adam's Apple right now (except a redirect). Austin512 (talk) 04:21, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree that it should be moved to "Adam's apple" since that is the most common name. I've never even heard the term "laryngeal prominence" before reading this article. 74.107.146.22 (talk) 10:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

My daughter has an "Adam's apple" it has to do with genetics and the rate that a person grows, she hit puberty before everyone else, she is 6 ft tall and only 13. She has large feet as well. There is nothing to worry about. As long as you can breathe air and live life, life a positive happy life.Nothing to worry about here just means you are extra special.:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.126.213.57 (talk) 13:17, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

A prominent laryngeal prominence

Um, okay. That's a redundant redundancy. 75.118.170.35 (talk) 20:39, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Adam's apple happened when Eve Gave Adam an apple ,and then he choked it when he saw the gods.

Note

Some guy added a pic of my adam's apple here. It was during my WB and I had made a few edits as an anon so I'm just putting a note here that I WAS NOT THE ONE WHO PUT IN THE PIC. Thanks Kayau Voting IS evil 08:59, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Move to Adam's apple

I've just not moved the page from "Laryngeal prominence" to "Adam's apple", based primarily on WP:COMMONNAME. Please note that this article was moved from "Adam's apple" to "Laryngeal prominence" in 2007 by Arcadian (talk · contribs), so if anyone objects to the article title at this point then a Requested move process would probably be the best way to go.
— V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 02:44, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Etymology

According to de:wikt:Adamsapfel, which seems to be sourced from Kluge's Etymological Dictionary of German, the explanation as a mistranslation of Hebrew ṯapūaḥ haʾāḏām is actually as old as the 19th century (thus predating Alexander Gode), but the term is not actually attested in Hebrew before the Modern Hebrew period – the modern term ṯapūaḥ haʾāḏām riʾšōn ("apple of the first man/human being") having arisen under the influence of European languages. Therefore, the immediate source is indeed the legend, although it is not old either; the European term arose through a fanciful interpretation of Adamsapfel (cf. Paradiesapfel, "paradise apple", i. e. "excellent, exotic apple [from a warm climate]", for "tomato"), whose original meaning is "pomegranate", and in the sense "laryngeal prominence" is modelled after the Latin term pōmum grānātum (literally "pomegranate"), itself after the Arabic tradition of using the word for "pomegranate" to refer to the laryngeal prominence in medical writings.

Funny enough, I have been familiar with the Hebrew explanation for a long time, but on encountering it again in the newspaper, I suddenly became sceptical and began to check. Bingo! --Florian Blaschke (talk) 20:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Is it possible that the hebrew word mentioned in the article is adama (durt)? As a native Hebrew speaker I am not familiar with any word similar to Adam that means 'bump'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.66.111.86 (talk) 19:16, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Strangely-worded sentence in the "Fuction" section

Together, a larger soundboard is made up in phonation apparatus and, as a result, the man gets a deeper tone.

This should be reworded for clarity. I know virtually nothing about anatomy, but based on the second sentence in the same paragraph -- During adolescence, the thyroid cartilage grows together with the larynx -- my suggestion is to change the above sentence to the following:

The enlargement of the thyroid cartilage and the larynx, together, constitute an enlargement of the soundboard in the phonation apparatus, which explains why adult men typically have deeper voices than adult women and children.

I'll leave this to someone more knowledgeable. It might be better to rewrite the paragraph entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usewhosename (talk • contribs) 02:28, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Genetic markers of prominence (both male and female)?

Has anyone discovered any genetic markers that might affect the degree of prominence? Jimw338 (talk) 19:04, 27 December 2017 (UTC)