Talk:Socrate

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How come this newly created page is linked from User:Topbanana/Reports/This page contains a red link that may be due to a plural discrepancy/V-Z? Right now this page does not contain any link! <KF> 00:14, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I do apologize. I've just followed this up and can see now how it works. <KF> 00:18, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC)

melodrama=

So I've been frequenting this page I think for over 10 years now---I remember reading it since I was in High School first getting into Satie. At anyrate, the sentence "As Satie, after all, was not so much in favour of melodrama-like settings, that idea was abandoned, and the text would be sung — be it in a more or less reciting way" was burned into my mind---and I'm surprised to see it even now after all this time. The tone doesn't strike me as very appropriate for an encyclopedia, but more to the point shouldn't there be a citation for Satie's supposed distaste for melodrama---something concrete to suggest that it's as evident (as the sentence claim) that such a distaste affected and resulted in the unique form of Socrate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:9C01:5156:A804:EAEF:5C0:BE6A (talk) 19:06, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removed section

I will place this here for further reference, though it shouldn't be on Wikipedia. I have removed it as per WP:NOT, Wikipedia does not exist to store "Mere collections of public domain or other source material" such as "original historical documents" (or "quotations" as per another section of the guideline). Utilize either Wikisource, Project Gutenberg, or Wikiquote. Peace and Passion ("I'm listening....") 04:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Who says that a quote equals "a mere collection of (etc)" in this case? --Francis Schonken (talk) 19:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Removed section

I've removed the section "The whiteness" because it reads like a personal essay and is basically unsourced. The one citation is rather vaguely posted and lacks a page number, and it does not, despite the user's claims, apply to the period of Socrate. Instead it refers to Satie's notorious joke about eating only "white foods", which he published in the article "A Day in the Life of a Musician" (February 1913) as part of his satirical essay series Mémoires d'un amnésique. (See Ornella Volta, "A Mammal's Notebook: The Writings of Erik Satie", Atlas Publishing, London, 1996 [reissued 2014], p. 112 and Note 42 on p. 208).

This is the citation text before I removed it:

"see q:Erik Satie, the "I eat only white foods: (...)" quote is from the period he was composing Socrate. To Valentine Gross Satie had confessed he wanted the Socrate composition to be white and pure like Antiquity (quoted in Ornella Volta, Satie Seen Through His Letters, Marion Boyars Publishers, London/New York, 1989).

Satie's "white and pure like Antiquity" statement to Valentine Gross about Socrate can be found on page 154 of Volta's "Satie Seen Through His Letters". However Volta does not connect "Socrate" with the "white foods" trope in her book.

TheBawbb (talk) 23:30, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Musical form need improvement

I've removed a lot of PoV stuff from this section, but it really needs to say what the form is rather than what it isn't. I'm going to look at Caroline Potters book and see if I can source better material.

Rconroy (talk) 13:41, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]