Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Bell Ringing Mute Swans
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The result of the debate was delete. Rossami (talk) 07:24, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Something has to happen to this article, but I'm not sure what. Take away the hyperbolic fluff, and there's not much here that's not already said in Mute_swan#Trivia. One possibility would be to delete this article and merge any useful content (assuming there is any) into Mute Swan. Or, (perhaps better) would be to delete, and merge into Wells Cathedral. At the very least, this article needs extensive cleanup, and a rename to something more descriptive like The swans of Wells Cathedral. In any case, a redirect is unwarrented --RoySmith 20:00, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Poorly written. Merge information into
mute swanWells Cathedral, as info already exists at mute swan, as RoySmith suggests, and delete. Stombs 22:24, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC) - Strong Keep, needs cleanup is all. Wyss 07:50, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Originally, Wells Cathedral linked directly to mute swan, which had all of this content already. Then The Bell Ringing Mute Swans was created; and rather than {{merge}}ing it as a pointless fork of an existing article, instead the "fluff" was added to it and Wells Cathedral was modified to point to it. I think that the best course of action is: Undo all of this; Merge the external links to pictures of Wells Cathedral swans, in The Bell Ringing Mute Swans and mute swan, into Wells Cathedral; Delete The Bell Ringing Mute Swans. Uncle G 17:22, 2005 Jan 24 (UTC)
Hi,
I was watching Animal Planet a few years ago and that told me about these Swans.
They showed modern color video of Mute Swans ringing a bell at the moat.
This video said that they were trained by a little girl(name unknown)that trained these Swans.
If the Swans in Wells do not do this any more, then what was I seeing?
I have contacted the Wells Cathedral and am waiting for a reply.
http://www.bishopspalacewells.co.uk/
I was told that the Swans "forgot" to ring the bells and had to be retrained.
This article Roy Smith shows is news to me.
Looks like there is a mystery here.
Supercool Dude 13:34, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Hello,
I finally got an email from Ms. Marian Shaw at the Bishops Palace moat at Wells cathedral who says that only one pair of Mute Swans are left that ring bells daily for food. If you do not believe this then email her at <marianshaw@bishopspalacewells.co.uk> . That website that says otherwise is completey innaccurate. They still do indeed ring bells for food! http://www.bishopspalacewells.co.uk/wildlife.asp
Supercool Dude 15:31, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Hi!,
- Strong Keep, Are any of you Animal Lovers? Animal Rights Activists? Do you believe that we should protect animals that are Sentient beings like us?
This article I wrote is proof that Mute Swans are intelligent enough to solve problems and pass their knowledge to their offspring. This is a well known phenomenon and World Famous. Do not let this person Roy Smith further debase Wikipedia. He has already deleted much knowledge from us.
Supercool Dude 06:32, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Mention it at Wells Cathedral (if it's not there already, and I guess it is). Then delete. Not worthy of its own article. -R. fiend 20:29, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. I did the cleanup that User:Uncle G suggested. There was nothing to merge. dbenbenn | talk 02:32, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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