Talk:Jomo Kenyatta

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jomo Kenyatta/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Indy beetle (talk · contribs) 15:52, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Comments

Very impressive indeed, and I'm glad to see such an important African bio here at GAN. Overall, I do think the article is ready for GA, but I have some comments for clarification:

• "attracting both widespread support and the animosity of white settlers." Does this mean he got both support and animosity from the white settlers, or that he had broad Kenyan support in contrast to animosity from whites?

• The latter. I have reworded this to try and make things clearer. Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:07, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

• "They were sentenced to seven years' hard labour, which was to be followed by indefinite restriction." What is meant by "restriction"? Parole? Something analogous to Apartheid banning?

• Yes, it seemed to be a similar form of legal punishment. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have an article on this particular law. I've expanded the prose to the following: "indefinite restriction preventing him from leaving a given area without permission". Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:07, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

• Is there any info surrounding the authorship/publication of Suffering Without Bitterness or The Challenge of Uhuru: The Progress of Kenya, 1968 to 1970?

• Unfortunately I do not recall any mention of these publications in the main biographies of Kenyatta that I have had access to. Hopefully more research will be published in future that will cover this and other issues. Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:11, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

-Indy beetle (talk) 15:52, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks for your comments, Indy beetle; will offer comments shortly. Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:00, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Assessment

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

-Indy beetle (talk) 21:28, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Funeral arrangements

On 22 August 1978, Kenyatta died in the State House, Mombasa. As a result of the UK's longstanding experience in state funerals, the Kenyan government requested British assistance in organising Kenyatta's. McKenzie was employed as a go-between,

How could McKenzie have performed this three months after his assassination? Timrollpickering 11:54, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

A very fair point. The Kenyan government had been planning Kenyatta's funeral for about a decade, and thus they had employed McKenzies's assistance several years prior to his death. I have amended the prose in the article to reflect this. Midnightblueowl (talk) 14:23, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

References

Grace Wanjiku

@Midnightblueowl Hi, it seems that the information concerning one of Kenyatta's wives, Grace Wanjiku, is missing in the body of the article. It's a bit perplexing for the reader because you have four wives in the infobox, but then in the body it's only claimed that he had three. Could you kindly fix this? Thank you. Mimihitam (talk) 15:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Well spotted, Mimihitam. We do mention the third marriage in the first paragraph of the "Presidency of the Kenya African Union: 1946–1952" section, but at that juncture we don't actually give her name. I'll check the WP:Reliable Sources and see if they can support the addition of her name. Midnightblueowl (talk) 08:43, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

@Midnightblueowl Thanks for your response. Also in the infobox it is mentioned that Grace Wanjiku died in 1950 and this information is not mentioned in the body, so as for now this death year also requires additional verification. Mimihitam (talk) 09:08, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

I found a good academic source with regard to the wives and children btw: [1]. You might want to add it to the text. Mimihitam (talk) 09:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

more about him

his first book Stargizin' (talk) 17:03, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

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His personality

How he lived a life 197.239.14.47 (talk) 08:17, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

i actually need full details please i have holiday work 😥😥😥😥 197.239.14.47 (talk) 08:17, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Working location in Sussex

There is a possible confusion in where Jomo Kenyatta was working in the UK during the World War II. All the indications are that he lived near Storrington, however the article states he was working Linfield, which is some distance from Storrington (19 miles). However, to the north of Storrington was a market garden company called A.G. Linfield and Sons. This would be more in keeping with the rest of the narrative. There are a number of local histories that attest to the fact that Jomo Kenyatta was employed at A.G. Linfield. Nshimbi (talk) 08:19, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Kenyatta’s life span

Well he was born in 1893 in palace that is not well attested, some Nsenda and others attest Ngenda near Nairobi.He died in 1978. Around 1909 to 1914 , he attended a Presbyterian Mission School where he was baptized Johnston Kamau Wa Ngenyi. He worked as a water inspector for Nairobi Municipality(1922-1928) 154.72.205.4 (talk) 09:22, 19 March 2024 (UTC)