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aha! the welland canal is such a great thing that man has brought to us :)

Indeed. Without doubt, the financial benefits that the canal brings to the North American shipping industry near the great lakes are tremendous. :) --Matt0401 20:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Map

Anyone with sufficient skill and knowledge, please consider making a map for this article, preferably one showing all four canals. Tom e r ^talk 00:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone should add a piece about invasive marine species that took advantage of this canal. In particular, the lamprey eel caused the fish population in Lake Superior - and in the other three upper Great Lakes to crash. 71.36.220.191 17:11, 29 July 2007 (UTC)TZB[reply]

John Walsh

The comment about John Walsh is incorrect. He was not released but died in prison on 3 March 1909 from "cirrhosis of the liver" (according to Canadian records). He was my great-grandfather and I have copies of the letters he sent back to Ireland whilst incarcerated. John Nolan was released on 7 April 1916 to return to his family in Dublin.

TimE1962 (talk) 03:38, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To the Atlantic from the Second Welland Canal.

I question the correctness of the last part of this sentence: "By 1848, a 2.7 m (9 ft) deep path was completed, not only through the Welland Canal but also the rest of the way to the Atlantic Ocean via the St. Lawrence Seaway."

According to the St. Lawrence Seaway page, construction on it did not begin until more than a century later, in 1954. Granted, that page states that "The Saint Lawrence Seaway was preceded by a number of other canals", but it seems to indicate nothing prior to 1871. So I am scratching my head at what exactly had happened in "the St. Lawrence Seaway" 23 years prior, in 1848.

Perhaps what is meant in the Welland article is the St. Lawrence River, not the Seaway? Or perhaps it means a deep channel was cut along the route which is today called the St. Lawrence Seaway? In any event, this page should be clarified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.235.163.177 (talk) 21:43, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Horst von der Goltz and his involvement with the Von Papen plot

I'm wondering if any German-speaking Wikipedian could translate the German Wiki page about Horst von der Goltz and perhaps update the English version of the page. Google Translate only works so well and I'd like to be able to flesh-out his involvement in the Von Papen plot if possible. TIA User:Natty10000 ^{[Stop me before I edit again!]} 13:18, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

War of 1812 soldiers unearthed during 3rd Canal construction

Saw this question asked on the Welland Canal FB group and thought it might make an interesting addition to the entry here if someone knew anything of the circumstance

"Here's a puzzler for any of the historians in the group. In 1874 during construction of the 3rd Canal, the bodies of 16 US soldiers who'd died during the Battle of Beaver Dams were found. The monument to them is in Beaverdams Park

http://www.hmdb.org/marker.asp?marker=54120

I'm wondering if anyone know where its original location was? Since the Battle of Beaver Dams monument was originally around Davis Road and Old Thorold Stone Road, I'm assuming this marker would've been somewhere in the vicinity by the track of the 3rd Canal. The move happened relatively (for some) recently so I'm wondering if anyone might remember where it's original location was?" User:Natty10000 ^{[Stop me before I edit again!]} 20:07, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fees: John Waddy tjwaddy@gmail.com

Is there a charge to use the Walland Canel? Boat length 64 ft 2601:805:8500:D130:A5D5:E2D1:78F1:CC4D (talk) 15:48, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Probably a charge to go through the locks. That's a big boat. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:09, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And bypass Niagara Falls

The wording "and bypass Niagara Falls" in the opening paragraph is a bit strange. It seems to imply that before the canal was built, ships did sail via Niagara Falls. And that, even now, ships not wishing to use the canal could still do so. Which, unless I am missing something fundamental here, is an absolute physical (if not logical) impossibility. Toddcs (talk) 12:30, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddcs I didn't get the same impression. I believe the phrasing is the way it is because of the physical impossibility. The Welland Canal is connected to Lake Erie and Niagara Falls is an international border so the canal was built to facilitate transport. It 'bypasses' Niagara Falls because it can't go through it for obvious logistical reasons. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:55, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Clovermoss

Thank you for clarifying! Toddcs (talk) 20:51, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Clovermoss and Toddcs: I agree the Niagara Falls "bypass" needed a bit of elaboration for those unfamiliar with the area. I made an edit to the first paragraph. I'd appreciate your input. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:50, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Magnolia677 Looks fine to me. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 23:10, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Magnolia677 Thank you. That seems much better. ;) Toddcs (talk) 12:00, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]