Talk:British Museum tube station

Photo

It would be nice to have a photo of the station itself. TheGrappler 16:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think there is a British Museum tube station. The closest ones would be Russell Square or Holborn. Tempra mental (talk) 11:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't think there's anything that resembles the station from above ground. There are a few pictures of where the station was located in the article though. Alex Muller 10:48, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Wholly disused

"it is now wholly disused. ... reportedly used by engineers to store sleepers"

Being pedantic, if we are treating those reports as credible, the station may not be wholly disused. --rbrwr^± 15:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Royal Scots Guards

The station was also the main HQ for the Royal Scots Guard throughout the 1980's up until some point during the 1990's. (London Walks)

Intense Rivalry

I've removed intense rivalry as the reason for there being no interchange - this is unlikely to have been the case. The CLR built interchanges with the Baker Street & Waterloo Railway at Oxford Circus and the Charing Cross, Euston & Hampstead Railway at Tottenham Court Road - both of which lines had the same owners as the GNP&BR - the Underground Electric Railways Company of London a company with which the CLR was cooperating for the production of joint promotional material less than a year later.--DavidCane (talk) 00:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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British Museum Station Endeavour edit

Moved from User talk:Redrose64 § British Museum Station Endeavour edit

 – Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:24, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello,

I made an addition to the British Museum Station page in the In Popular Culture section saying that in an episode of Endeavour, Morse meets another character there. It seems you have removed that edit. May I ask why? I was going to come back to add some proper links etc. I don't want to make poorly formatted edits and I'm happy to be guided.

Best regards,

Rob — Preceding unsigned comment added by Worthr (talk • contribs) 15:08, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Worthr: If you were going to make your edits with the correct links etc. you should have done them then and there when you made the initial edit, as a result because you failed to cite a source, your edit was removed. Unless you can cite a source there and then for any content you add (i.e. have the source available), then don't attempt to post the material as it will simply be removed as unsourced, whether you 'intend' to go back and fix it later or not. Chieftain Tartarus (talk) 15:34, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Also sorry if that came off as a bit rough, I can't think of a better way to word it. Chieftain Tartarus (talk) 15:37, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

@Worthr: Besides which, it is trivia. Was it significant to the plot of the episode that British Museum station was used? If that is the case, who has said so? A source will be needed for a claim like this, per the policy on verifiability. Good places for such opinions are newspaper reviews of TV programmes; merely naming the episode (even with a link to the ITV Player page) is not enough. However, if the story would have worked equally well with a different station - for example, Holborn - then the mention of Endeavour in the article British Museum station is utterly insignificant, one might say fancruft. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 15:59, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

It's far from trivia (and why are we here, not on the article talk page?). Ask yourself, why did they choose Museum as the station, not 'Aldwych' or 'Bull and Bush'? And more seriously, why not 'Mark Lane' (which really no one has heard of, but might have fitted the plot even better)? It is of course that Museum has backstory, as both the spook's nearest underground station, in the early '30s, and then during the war as their own little bunker. I thought it was a typically ingenious choice, and well deserving of being included both here and on the Endeavour article.

But then, if you ask on this page, the answer to everything is that it's " utterly insignificant fancruft". Andy Dingley (talk) 18:56, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley: This is the edit. There is no indication of source, no indication of plot significance. As far as encyclopedic content goes, it's on a level with noting the number of the locomotive hauling the victim's train in a dramatisation of 4.50 from Paddington. It needs context, most importantly, why British Museum and not another station. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:37, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

I saw the edit. I saw you revert it. It wasn't a good edit originally, because it was unlinked, unsourced and unexplained. But you seem to see it as all that it could ever be. And sadly, I knew that would be how you'd react. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:49, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

If you're complaining about poorly sourced cruft in that article, The station is reputed to be haunted by the ghost of the daughter of an Egyptian Pharaoh called Amen-ra which would appear and scream so loudly that the noise would carry down the tunnels to adjoining stations would seem a more obvious target. At least the station's appearance in Endeavour is sourceable; the sole source for the ghost is this blog. (The existence of a secret tunnel between the station and the BM's collection of mummies is particularly impressive, given that they're upstairs. Needless to say, there was never a pharaoh Amen-ra, who was a deity not a person.) ‑ Iridescent 19:51, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

That is not germane, per WP:OTHERCONTENT (and I'm not campaigning for its retention, either). What I am against is the not-insignificant number of people who want to add unsourced content like "This station was featured in an episode of Foo on (insert date here)". By "featured" they might simply mean that it was in the background of a filming location. You can substitute "locomotive" for "station" and we get lots of that too; WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE applies. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:36, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

So I take it you don't watch Endeavour then? And yet you've already decided that the station's use (not merely as a filming location), and the choice of this particular station, is not germane. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:03, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Whether I watch Endeavour or not is irrelevant: we should be writing for those people who don't watch it. My remark "that is not germane" was in response to Iridescent's comment "if you're complaining about poorly sourced cruft in that article". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:03, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

It didn't seem to be British Museum to me, as the surface buildings there were demolished in 1989. Just having some "Museum" nameplates set up doesn't make it anywhere, necessarily. When I watched it my guess was Aldwych, which still has the lifts that were shown. Britmax (talk) 16:19, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Of course, that was where it was filmed. The in plot location was probably meant to be vaguely near the Science and Victoria and Albert Museums, judging by the short time it took them to reach the Albert Hall. Britmax (talk) 11:53, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Do they ever mention (in character) that they're at the Albert Hall? Clearly it is (and I had a raised eyebrow myself at yet another telly-teleport like that). But do we see it in an "identifiable" manner of the whole building (to indicate that that's where they are), rather than it just being used as a convenient piece of close-up Victoriana and presumably meant to stand in for the British Museum? Much as the inevitable Aldwych is always standing in for anywhere from Docklands to Mornington Crescent. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:39, 16 March 2018 (UTC)