Talk:Juneteenth

Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2024

Add note that the holiday was proposed by President Donald Trump in September 2020 before officially being enacted by President Biden in 2021 72.86.34.206 (talk) 11:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

We would need RS saying this. Slatersteven (talk) 12:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

It is already in the article prose under "Federal holiday." It doesn't need to be in the lead. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit Request

• What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):

I looked up Juneteenth to learn more about the history of this important day in American history. The wording in the first paragraph of the page "Juneteenth" is, to me, very confusing at best and may be incorrect.

I quote from the page: The holiday's name is a portmanteau of the words "June" and "nineteenth", as it was on June 19, 1865, when Major General Gordon Granger ordered the final enforcement of the Emancipation Proclamation in Texas at the end of the American Civil War.[8][9]

The next line is confusing: Although this date commemorates enslaved people learning of their freedom under the Emancipation Proclamation, this only applied to former Confederate states.

"this date" would appear to refer to June 19, 1865. My understanding is that most enslaved people in Confederate states learned of their freedom through the Emancipation Proclamation on or soon after January 1, 1863. As the article states in the first paragraph under the History heading, "Texas, as the most remote state of the former Confederacy, had seen an expansion of slavery because the presence of Union troops was low as the American Civil War ended; thus, the enforcement of the Emancipation Proclamation had been slow and inconsistent there prior to Granger's order.[9]"

Therefore, my understanding is that June 19 1865 is NOT the date that most enslaved people in the Confederate states learned of their freedom; June 19, 1865 is recognized as the date that enslaved people in Texas learned of their freedom.

My second edit request is what appears to be a minor calculation error. The first paragraph under the heading History states: "In all June 19, 1865, was 900 days after the Emancipation Proclamation went into effect..." If I have calculated the number correctly, it was actually 901 days. Perhaps the author(s) of the article failed to recognize that 1864 was a leap year with 366 days instead of 365.

This is my first time to request an edit. I hope I have done this in a respectful manner. I feel the history of Juneteenth is important. My belief is that many people may not read past the first paragraph of an article and therefore the facts and clarity in those first few lines, to me, is vitally important.

Thank you!

• Why it should be changed:

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Raventattoo67 (talk) 16:00, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. MadGuy7023 (talk) 22:27, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

No factual references?

"Although this date commemorates enslaved people learning of their freedom under the Emancipation Proclamation, this only applied to former Confederate states. There remained legally enslaved people in states that never seceded from the Union. These people did not gain their freedom until the ratification of the 13th Amendment to the United States Constitution on December 6, 1865."

I find this odd that this is very important information, if true,does not have any references attached. Firejack007 (talk) 21:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)