Talk:Tiny Tim (musician)

DOB

I'm going to go with 1932 for his birthdate, though there is some disagreement about the matter (see [1] "Tiny Tim had recently said that he was born April 12, 1932, making him 64, although over the years he had sometimes fibbed about his age"). I've seen 1922, 1930 and 1933 all given, but I think we should stick with what Tim himself said last unless some fresh evidence comes to light. --Camembert

[The following 5 'graphs, including pseudo-sig, moved here by me, from under the == Dickens == hdg where an IP's edit left them. --Jerzy (t) 23:43, 2005 Mar 21 (UTC)]

Regarding the uncertainty of Tiny Tim's age, writer William Poundstone, of the "Big Secrets" series of books, flatly states the following in the third book ("Biggest Secrets"):

"He was actually born Herbert Buckingham Khaury in New York City on April 12, 1923. Tim was 46, claiming to be 37, in 1969."

For what it's worth, I personally regard Poundstone as generally trustworthy on these matters; in the abovementioned book he precedes his litany of celebrities' real ages with an informative subchapter titled "How to find out anyone's age," discussing the searching of public records, old school yearbooks, etc.

He does not, however, specify exactly how he arrived at a 1943 birthdate for Tiny Tim, and indeed notes that "The New York City Department of Health is a real stickler" regarding the information required for a complete search.

-Tim Harrod

He was born in 1932, just look at the passport and birth certificate here: http://www.tinytim.org/effects.html Blogbourri 22:47, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Social Security Death Index also has the 1932 date and under the name of "Tiny Tim," not Herbert Khaury. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.228.60.141 (talk) 19:46, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- In the 1940 Census is looks like his age says 7 on 3/1/1940, so matches 1932 date.--Shivertimbers433 (talk) 05:33, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Analysis

Under the analysis section, there is a comment about him saying he asked his wife to give up her job because he felt it was not her place to work (Paraphrasing here). It is marked with a citation needed. I found the source [2] but the source seems to be of questionable veracity. I think the quote should probably be removed. It seems more like a post-mortem flaming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palehorse864 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dickens

Really, this should be broken up into 2 pages

Tiny Tim (musician)
Tiny Tim (Dickens fictional character)

along with a disambiguation page.

If you asked a random person "Who is Tiny Tim?", very few would give "the ukelele player" as their first answer.

Really? The first hits on a Google search are all for the singer (well, a few are for computer programs and things, but none are for the Dickens character). Furthermore, the Dickens part is only a stub, and I don't think it will get any bigger any time soon. I think the present set-up is fine, but if you really think they need fully disambiguating, then do it. --Camembert

1. Will you all please sign and date your responses to help keep thiings clear. Just add four tildes (~) after your comments.

2. More to the point, please check 'What links here' when doing any moves, in this case the one where the Tiny Tim, fictional character info was moved, there are internal links that now incorrectly point to the musician.

3. Yes, we need a disambig at this point, because of ~~the above, and because other fictional characters from A Christmas Carol have their own entries.~~ implications of the above issues that are off-topic here but should be discussed elsewhere. ~~Unless sometone thinks it's better (and is willing) to change those, merging Crachit and Marley and whatever else in the Christmas Carol article?~~ [strike out, and bolded replacement language, by Jerzy (t) 02:28, 2005 Mar 22 (UTC)]

Quill 23:27, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC) [as modified & adjacently noted]

The biggest problem in putting up with rudeness is that it contributes to the impression that there's nothing wrong with it. So while i can take it, and while an apology would be worthless to me (as opposed to whatever it may be worth to this community), i conclude i am obliged to comment that:

The word "please" (from "if you please") indicates not feeling, or pretending that you don't feel, entitled to what you are asking for. And italicizing it, as above, imitates a change of tone of voice, specifically a tone of insistence, essentially to communicate "of course i have to pretend i don't feel entitled to this, but that's not going to stop me from being insistent about it." By my lights, that is sticking it in the listener's face that the politeness is a lie, and noticeably ruder than omitting the "please".
"Please" and so on aside, the request itself is rude in the context of WP, essentially bcz it mistakenly says "i want you to do more, or leave the article alone". WP is a volunteer project, and it works by people working on what they want to work on, and taking it as far as makes sense for them. (I support the practice of complaining when people break things: for instance, a change that turns a lk into a double redirect results in users who follow the lk landing at a page that reads something like "Redirect Tiny Tim", which is like expecting your guest to stick their hand inside the car door and pull on a greasy linkage to get out of your car. Avoiding that is why every "Move this page" screen says
Links to the old page title will not be changed; be sure to check for double-redirects (using "What links here").... You are responsible for making sure that links continue to point where they are supposed to go.

but a lk to a dab page, or to an article that starts with a dab (or even to such a dab that lks back to where the first lk came from), is something understandable to a user with one minute of experience with us, and entirely different from a broken lk.)

"If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right" is not a WP slogan; what you're thinking of is "Edit boldly". Half-assed edits, boldly put forward for criticism and improvement, drive this project. I for one will keep my half-assed edits coming, and keep my faith that enough eyeballs will see to the correction of the things i don't think through far enough, or decide not to polish. (Usually bcz for me at that time, a quick "it'd be a shame to ignore that problem" edit is the tolerable degree of distraction, from the thing that strikes me as the most important edit for me to do, as thoroughly as i can in the next half hour to few days that that takes me.)

--Jerzy (t) 04:26, 2005 Mar 24 (UTC)

Vandalism

The page has been vandalised a couple of times today by user User:Eock... I've reverted twice. --Starwed 08:40, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Source of derisive comment

Cut from intro:

He was derisively referred to as the master of the disturbing.

Who said this? When? And does anyone have a web link or title and page from a magazine or book? --Uncle Ed 13:50, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see that User:Raul654 (who is an admin, by the way) added that comment on 9/20/03, so who knows whether he's still got this page on his "watch" list. I am almost certain I've heard that elsewhere, but I was a fan and don't at all agree with it, so I'm not going out of my way to try to track it down. Let it be gone! Wahkeenah 14:58, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- A quick survey of Google suggests that wikipedia is the primary source for this quotation, and it has proliferated like a cold virus throughout the Internet, as many sites directly rip off wikipedia. The price of popularity. Wahkeenah 15:02, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV

The "Rise to prominence in the 1960s" section contained some words which were bias, eg. "Sadly, Tiny and Miss Vicki mostly lived apart and divorced eight years later." with the biased word being 'Sadly'. I have removed these words as I felt they were too POV. I am still a relatively new user and am not completely familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, so if my removal is not appropraite, please notify me and feel free to revert. Thanks. -- Dave 06:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV and also obviously redundant: The average reader wouldn't think it was a happy thing that their marriage failed. However, it's worth pointing out that the marriage did not live up to the hype, so I added that point (in place of "sadly"). Wahkeenah 01:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Good point, looks much better now. Thanks. Dave 04:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dead babies?

Is that line about the dead babies vandalism? It's totally unexplained and seems unlikely.

It was slipped in there by a-none earlier today. It be GONE. Wahkeenah 00:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tiny Tim's first son was born on 5/15/70 and was stillborn. Sadly, the child was never given a name and the boy's grave marker reads: ""It" Infant Son of Herbert and Vicki Khaury May 15, 1970 - May 15, 1970" You can see the grave and marker at 8:19 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rk-t09h4gc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.12.78.199 (talk) 00:25, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Name

According to IMDB's Bio, his birth name is Herbert Butros Khaury.

IMDB consists of self-published information and is not considered a reliable source in Wikipedia. Can you produce a reliable reference? Also, please sign your comments on the Talk page. Just add four tilde characters ("~~~~") after your comment. — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 01:43, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Much of the data in the IMDb was set up a decade ago when I was a big wheel there. The data came from buffs with a sincere interest in facts, and their data had to pass through the screen of IMDb managers who did not accept data from people they did not trust.

This notion that the IMDb is inherently unreliable is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Varlaam (talk) 02:30, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. -- tariqabjotu 23:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page name

This page should be at Tiny Tim (musician). He named himself after Tiny Tim (A Christmas Carol) and he will be forgotten in 10 years, whereas the character from A Christmas Carol obviously won't. I moved it to the proper name, but it was reverted without explanation by an admin (I know it was an admin because the edit history of the dab page I created for Tiny Tim was obliterated). Mike Dillon 02:40, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page moves like that shouldn't be done with discussion. I added a note to the top of the page pointing to the fictional Tiny Tim. Cjosefy 06:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page moves "like" what? Moving a cult character away from the name of the article of the classic character they're named after? I'm going to put this on Wikipedia:Requested moves to get a more balanced opinion; Tiny Tim partisans are obviously going to want to keep their niche. Mike Dillon 16:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem with the move now that a discussion has been had, but as I said originally, you moved the page without ANY sort of notice or discussion. That's not a good thing in this case. So a move "like" that shouldn't be done. Cjosefy 16:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This move has been listed at Wikipedia:Requested moves#August 18, 2006. Please show a little perspective and allow Tiny Tim to become a disambiguation page, as it should be. Mike Dillon 17:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's been ten years since the musician's death; and longer since his stardom. If he isn't forgotten yet, why should he be forgotten ten years from now? Whereas the Dickens character is, and is always likely to be, a stub; I see no real purpose for the article (as opposed to a redirect to A Christmas Carol). Septentrionalis 20:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even if the Dickens character never had its own article, Tiny Tim should be a disambig page to allow readers to actually find what they're looking for. For most people, "Tiny Tim" is the Dickens character. The decision about whether to have a dab page has nothing to do with whether the things being disambiguated have their own article; it has to do with user expectation when searching and editor expectation when linking. The only reason this article is not a stub is that Tiny Tim is a cult figure (particular among Howard Stern fans); the rest of the world doesn't care about this guy. Mike Dillon 20:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am inclined to agree, and I was a fan of T.T.'s while he has around. Entering simply "Tiny Tim" should take you to a disambiguation page. It is questionable whether Tiny Tim the Dickens character needs his own page, as there is little you can say about him beyond restating what's in A Christmas Carol. In truth, he's not a major character in the story, mostly just a plot device. The disambig page could either direct to that small article, or to the A Christmas Carol, or both, plus the Tiny Tim (musician) writeup. Wahkeenah 20:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's what dab headers are for: For the Dickens character, see A Christmas Carol. Dab pages are undesirable when there are two alternatives; it means everybody has to click twice. Septentrionalis 07:14, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, an undue burden on the user, fer shure. The issue largely seems to be, which character is more widely known, and thus which one deserves his own unambiguous page. If the answer is "neither", or is in dispute, the disambig page would seem to be a reasonable compromise. Wahkeenah 12:32, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear, since I wasn't in my initial rant, my proposal is to move this page to Tiny Tim (musician) and for Tiny Tim to be a disambiguation page, not to move Tiny Tim (A Christmas Carol) to the unqualified name. I actually agree that the Tiny Tim (A Christmas Carol) stub is not very useful, but in that case I'd point users to the page for A Christmas Carol from the disambig page. Mike Dillon 21:43, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

support for dab Tobias Conradi (Talk) 22:50, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with that approach. Wahkeenah 23:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I too support the use of a dab as the Tiny Tim page as Mike Dillon proposes. -- Beardo 00:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support moving this to "...(musician)", but also move the Christmas Carol character to "Tiny Tim" as the obvious primary meaning. --CharlotteWebb 11:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

"Analysis" section original research

Nearly the entire "Analysis" section appears to be original research. The entire concept of analysis appearing in Wikipedia violates the no original research principle. I will remove the section, assuming no one produces valid references for the content contained therein. --Bk0 (Talk) 03:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some weeding on it, to remove the "of course"-type conclusions that are speculation, and to try to point out where the factual parts come from. Wahkeenah 03:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On the Old Front Porch

I don't understand this section -- is he singing the three parts, or are Billy and Ada? This could be more clear.

I agree. I also stumbled at that part. --JonValkenberg (talk) 04:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wives

Okay, this article has Tiny Tim getting divorced by Miss Vicky, and then no mention of any remarriage yet him conversing with his wife just before his death. Anybody see a problem here?

Victoria Mae Budinger (17 December 1969 – 1977) (divorced) 1 child
Jan Alweiss (26 June 1984 – 1995) (divorced)
Susan Marie Gardner (18 August 1995 – 30 November 1996) (his death)

—SlamDiego 11:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC) There should be some mention of his personal life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.14.172 (talk) 21:53, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Middle name

IMDb.com reports Tiny Tim's real name as “Herbert Butros Khaury”. This is in keeping with the traditional Arab practice of forming a name thus:

<personal name> <father's personal name> <grandfather's personal name> <great-grandfather's personal name> … <name of ancestor for whom family is named>

—SlamDiego 09:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB consists of self-published information and is not considered a reliable source in Wikipedia. Can you produce a reliable reference? — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 01:45, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tiptoe through the Tulips?

Tiptoe through the Tulips has a link that redirects right back to the page. Can I fix this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crushedmidnight (talk • contribs) 01:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Actually, it would be better if you didn't change it. Someone may eventually write an article about the song, replacing the redirect with content about the song itself. If you change the link, then someone will have to re-link it. --rogerd 01:51, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Move?

Would it be worth killing the dismbig parentheses in the title to moe this to his real name, which is the first name given in the article? Or am I the only one who hates those? Milto LOL pia 05:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Des Moines

Tim lived in my hometown of Des Moines, Iowa for a couple of years in the early '90s. He had a steady gig at one of the music venues in town.

Cranston Lamont 21:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rare Appearances

Tiny Tim appeared in a rare appearance as Lord of the League in a charity film short done for the Cleveland Browns in 1986 called "Masters of the Gridiron". Proceeds went to the United Way. I have a copy of the VHS tape. 68.228.187.154 (talk) 10:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC) While in New Orleans to appear at a suburban venue in April 1976, Tiny Tim performed for inmates of the Orleans Parish Prison, on Thursday April 22. The New Orleans Times-Picayune reported Tiny Tim "made liberal use of his ukulele before an enthusiastic crowd" and printed a photo of an animated Tim onstage in the prison's courtyard. <The New Orleans Times Picayune, April 24, 1976, Section 4 Page 8.>[reply]

Associated acts: The Beatles????

I noticed that in the infobox, there is an entry called "Associated acts" that lists The Beatles. There is no other reference to the Beatles in the article. As far as I know, there is no connection between the two acts. I am removing this, because I believe this was unintentional. --rogerd (talk) 22:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is a reference to The Beatles: namely, Ringo singing "Tiptoe..." in Yellow Submarine (movie). --JonValkenberg (talk) 04:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tiny Tim also appears on one of the Beatles Christmas records, recorded for members of the Beatles Fan Club in the '60s. He sang "Nowhere Man." Here's info: http://thesop.org/music/2009/05/03/the-scoop-on-tiny-tim-and-the-beatles-according-to-mister-bucks-burnett Rich (talk) 14:11, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. Rich ^^ is 100% Correct! Tiny Tim appears on 1 Beatles Christmas 45 ( or 1 track on "The Beatles Christmas Album" , which collects up all the fan club 45s. ). He performs a short version of "Nowhere Man" and jokes around with George Harrison , whom was also a ukelele enthusiast. 75.107.98.64 (talk) 21:33, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To add another voice/witness, I have said record and Tiny Tim does indeed appear on it.THX1136 (talk) 16:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Further to that, The Beatles helped set up his famous Royal Albert Hall performance. The Beatles recommended Tiny to their fans, telling them that he's the "real deal". It's hard to understand but you have to understand that Tiny Tim was for a few years one of the most famous and celebrated musicians in America, and his music was often highly rated by those in the industry. The way he carried on his career for the last few decades of his life, never again even approaching that level of fame or recognition, it's easy to forget just how huge he once was and how incredible it seems that The Beatles would want to associate with him. 203.7.42.67 (talk) 21:52, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

chronological disorder

Tiny Tim also starred in an ill fated feature film entitled "Blood Harvest". It is the only film in which Tiny Tim played the lead role.

Later career

After this career highlight . . . In 1986/87 he starred as a ukulele-playing psycho clown in the cult B-grade horror film Blood Harvest (1987), directed by Bill Rebane. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.1.106 (talk) 04:10, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Outsider music?

I don't see how he counts as Outsider music. He doesn't really have much in common with most outsider musicians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.126.33 (talk) 00:44, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So you are saying that he is Outside the Outsider group?

The one person he reminds me of is Leon Redbone, with their common interest in the archaic.

But Redbone has a conventional performance style, at least when compared to Tiny Tim.

Varlaam (talk) 02:21, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weasel Words

There are a ot of them in here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.194.101.164 (talk) 02:28, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give examples? Hit-and-run complaints with no cited facts are not constructive. — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 01:34, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you top-posted, which is bad. I moved this comment back where it apparently belongs. — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 01:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fanboy POV and Breathlessness

This article's prose style is that of a press release. Tiny Tim was an interesting guy, and I quite liked him, but someone needs to go through this article and strike out all the breathless adverbs. --GeePawHill (talk) 06:20, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top.
The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).} — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 02:03, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Musical Archivist?

In the lede and info box, Tim is currently called a "musical archivist". But there is nothing in the text to suggest that he ever trained or worked as an archivist. Maybe this entered the article as a poorly worded attempt to allude to Tim's interest in pre-rock popular music. I suggest we delete the wording or change it to "with a great interest in early-20th century popular music". What does everybody say? Martin Rundkvist (talk) 11:36, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do suspect that's what they were trying to say, but if you could find the editor who posted that, and if still active, you could maybe ask. If they're not active, go ahead and change it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 11:56, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Curtsurly, who wrote that in December 2005, stopped contributing to Wikipedia five years ago. I guess I'll just change it now. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 22:03, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The term "archivist" seems to be more than just someone who has a private collection of old records. I think it's safe to say that he was not a professional archivist. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:11, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if this was ever resolved, but the interview with Tiny Tim on Morton Downey Jr's interview show, posted to YouTube, has Downey and Tim discuss the fact he was a musical archivist. 68.146.233.86 (talk) 01:28, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

British-American?

In what sense not purely American? In what way British?Moletrouser (talk) 22:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My question exactly. His parents are Lebonese and Jewish, and I've found reference to his mother growing up in America. His birthplace is listed as NY in the article, but London in the info box, with no reference or other info. I can't find any reference to this anywhere. I'm going to remove the British tag and his birthplace unless someone has proof. DocRocktopus (talk) 11:32, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Death on Stage?

The description of his final heart attack, after which he was "led out by his third wife" and "collapsed shortly thereafter" seems to heavily imply that he did not die on stage, and in my opinion this article should not be included in the category "Musicians who died on stage". I'm not going to change it myself because I'm not familiar with the method of inclusion in such a category. 208.127.108.167 (talk) 08:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contradict template?

The article has a Contradict template in front of it but I don't see the explanation on this Talk page. Anyone know of a reason the template should not be removed? — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 02:02, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This pertained to the British/American inconsistency noted above.

Deleted. Varlaam (talk) 02:14, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How many million viewers on Carson?

The article currently states that the marriage of Tiny Tim was watched "with 21.4 million viewers watching". I've added a cite tag on it because well, it wasn't cited in the first place, but also I was watching PBS's American Masters which stated that something over 45 million people were watching it, making it the most watched show since. Any legit sources on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.29.130.57 (talk) 20:38, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I went ahead and specified the source for the 21.4 million figure. The Wikipedia article actually did state 45 million at one time, but because it was unsourced, and I assumed that the New York Times must have researched the Nielsen Ratings for that night in 1969 before they published the obit, I changed it. But if you know the title of the PBS American Masters program, and perhaps can find the date it was produced, then we'll just include that as another reference. The sentence could then be written to say something like, "On December 17, 1969, Tiny Tim married Victoria Mae Budinger (aka "Miss Vicki") on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson. It was a big pop culture event at the time, with the number of American households tuning in to see the spectacle hitting a record amount, cited anywhere from 21.4 million to 45 million viewers." Evenrød (talk) 01:32, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Changed it to 40 million; see minute mark 2:16: [3] Evenrød (talk) 06:18, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 7 September 2013 - Please ADD this to the entry

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According to Tiny Tim biographer, Lowell Tarling: Tiny Tim had a unique creative relationship with Australian artist, Martin Sharp, well known for his album covers for the band Cream, his artistic contribution to London’s OZ magazine, amongst other things. In 1976 Sharp and Tiny Tim collaborated on a marathon, the World Non-Stop Singing Record (for a professional singer).

On 12 January 1979 Tiny set this record at two hours, 15 minutes and seven seconds at Luna Park, Sydney Australia. This became the core material for Sharp’s film Street of Dreams. (In May 1988, Tiny broke his own record at the Brighton Arts Festival UK, where Sharp’s film was screened – see youtube.) Tiny Tim was also the subject of several major Sharp paintings

By 1982 Tiny Tim and Martin Sharp had collaborated on three LP records: Chameleon, Wonderful World of Romance and Keeping my Troubles to Myself (all re-released and currently available online). This was followed by a hard rock album titled Rock (1992), and Tiny Tim’s Christmas Album (1996).

Sharp also booked major venues, like the Sydney Opera House, for seven of Tiny’s Australian tours, as well designing the posters for these concerts..

After interviewing Tiny over an 11-year period, one of Sharp’s assistants, Lowell Tarling, has written Tiny Tim’s biography, (published in 2013)*. It includes many of Sharp’s posters and paintings of Tiny Tim.

SOURCE: Tarling, LR, Tiptoe Through a Lifetime, Generation Books, 162 pp. 2013 Fiji Dailyposter (talk) 02:22, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It would appear that the information above is more suitable for the article on Martin Sharp. The Ukulele Guy - Aggie80 (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree with Aggie ... although some of the info would belong on Tiny Tim's article (if it isn't already there) and some would belong on Sharp's. You always need to ensure that you have WP:CONSENSUS for the exact wording before making the edit request ... please continue this discussion, and propose similar changes to the Sharp article when appropriate ES &L 11:48, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tiny Tim in Australia

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Tiny Tim had a unique creative relationship with Australian artist, Martin Sharp, well known for his album covers for the band Cream, his artistic contribution to London’s OZ magazine, amongst other things. In 1976 Sharp and Tiny Tim collaborated on a marathon, the World Non-Stop Singing Record (for a professional singer).

On 12 January 1979 Tiny set this record at two hours, 15 minutes and seven seconds at Luna Park, Sydney Australia. This became the core material for Sharp’s film Street of Dreams. (In May 1988, Tiny broke his own record at the Brighton Arts Festival UK, where Sharp’s film was screened – see youtube.) Tiny Tim was also the subject of several major Sharp paintings

By 1982 Tiny Tim and Martin Sharp had collaborated on three LP records: Chameleon, Wonderful World of Romance and Keeping my Troubles to Myself (all re-released and currently available online). This was followed by a hard rock album titled Rock (1992), and Tiny Tim’s Christmas Album (1996).

Sharp also booked major venues, like the Sydney Opera House, for seven of Tiny’s Australian tours, as well designing the posters for these concerts..

After interviewing Tiny over an 11-year period, one of Sharp’s assistants, Lowell Tarling, has written Tiny Tim’s biography, (published in 2013)*. It includes many of Sharp’s posters and paintings of Tiny Tim.

Tarling, LR, Tiptoe Through a Lifetime, Generation Books, 162 pp. 2013 FijiDailyPost (talk) 03:03, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Per previous request, you should discuss how to include some portion of these facts in this article. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 05:16, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Age at death

Tiny Tim explained on the Howard Stern show, months before he died, why there was a discrepancy in his age and why some media reported it as 73 when he was actually 64. See starting at minute mark 2:50 :[4]. Evenrød (talk) 02:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discography

In Tiny Tim's discography it doesn't mention the split EP[5] he did with GG Allin, which I think is interesting and of note. GG Allin expressed admiration for Tiny Tim as an artist. Allin could also be added as a related artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.231.10.143 (talk) 22:50, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Right-handed guitar

It should be noted that while Tim played the ukulele left-handed (as noted in the article), he actually played the guitar right handed, as seen in his 1970's TV special "A Special Tiny Tim." 68.146.233.86 (talk) 01:25, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2017

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Please add to post-humous releases:

In 2013, Ship To Shore PhonoCo followed up "Lost & Found Vol 1" with a "Vol 2" featuring Tiny Tim's 1974 live recording of "(Nobody Else Can Love Me Like) My Old Tomato Can" on a limited edition wax cylinder, which Time.com dubbed the ‘most retro record release ever.’ Reference: http://entertainment.time.com/2013/09/09/forget-vinyl-new-recording-is-most-retro-ever/

In 2016, Ship To Shore PhonoCo released Tiny Tim's America, a collection of demos recorded by Tiny Tim in 1974 and finished in 2015 with overdubs overseen by producer Richard Barone and Tiny Tim's cousin Eddie Rabin. The album was subtitled "Rare Moments Vol. 2" and presented as a spiritual sequel to 2009's "I've Never Seen A Straight Banana: Rare Moments Vol 1." Reference: https://www.shiptoshoremedia.com/store/albums/tiny-tims-america Justin Martell (talk) 06:47, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done — Train2104 (t • c) 17:59, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

February 15, 2017

Tiny Tim sometimes didn't play the uke, he played it most of the time. M briglia05 17:22, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

February 22, 2017

I fixed a grammar error from "Tiny Tim (born Herbert Buckingham Khaury ..." to "Herbert Buckingham Khaury, known professionally as Tiny Tim, ..." M briglia05 15:57, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2017

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Tiny's hit song was actually called "Tip Toe Thru' the Tulips With Me". User talk:MattWorks 19:12, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:25, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2017

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Herbert Buckingham Khaury, better known by his stage name Tiny Tim, ... User talk:MattWorks 14:25, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:08, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2017

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Tiny Tim had the folk genre. User talk:MattWorks 14:26, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:19, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Blood Harvest (1987)

The Life and career section should mention that he acted in Blood Harvest (1987). From the film's article:

Blood Harvest is a 1987 American slasher film directed by Bill Rebane and starring Tiny Tim.^[1] It is the only feature film he starred in.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.151.18.11 (talk) 22:42, 4 October 2018 (UTC) [reply]

References

^ Gilpatrick, Kristin (2002). Famous Wisconsin film stars. Badger Books Inc. Inc. p. 251. ISBN 978-1-878569-86-8.

British

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please change ((British)) to ((United Kingdom|British)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:541:4500:1760:7466:229c:6598:7107 (talk • contribs)

Done NiciVampireHeart 15:40, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Link to WWE/Lawler video is broken. Should be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmAwLSI_qt4 Digibrill (talk) 19:55, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: WP:LINKVIO. I have marked the current cite as dead. NiciVampireHeart 00:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2020

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In the Posthumous Releases section, here is a source for the end of the last sentence referencing the release of the book Eternal Troubadour: The Improbable Life of Tiny Tim: http://tinytim.jawbonepress.com/

In the same section, can you please add the following to the end of the third paragraph:

In 2016, the digital-only In The Next Life: Tiny Tim & Harve Mann (Lost & Found, Vol 3) ^[1]and, in 2019, Spirits Of The Past: Lost & Found, Vol 4 was released on compact disc. ^[2]

Can you please also add the same to the discography section?

Also in the same section, can you please add a sentence at the end about the forthcoming Tiny Tim documentary:

In 2019, it was announced that the Swedish production company Momento Film had just finished a feature-length documentary on Tiny Tim's life and career entitled Tiny Tim: King For A Day. The documentary is directed by Johan von Sydow, produced by Justin Martell, David Herdies and Michael Krotkiewski, and narrated by Weird Al Yankovic. ^[3] Justin Martell (talk) 23:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: These are not good links. Blogs are rarely appropriate to add, and the other "references" you added are links to promotional content. Feel free to reactivate your request once you have a reliable source. A a s i m 21:15, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

hey

fix cite note 33 idiots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmAwLSI_qt4 id do it myself but i refuse to register an account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:2d46:e500:507d:af46:5ff1:b3dc (talk) 10:29, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2020

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If Findagrave is allowed under WP:RS, please add <ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/20461446/it-khaury Findagrave> after the sentence ending "Khaury buried the child with a headstone that read 'It'". 2001:BB6:4713:4858:75C1:618D:F037:7ECB (talk) 18:27, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Because the content on Find a Grave is user-generated, it is not considered a reliable source for use on Wikipedia. See WP:UGC and WP:RSP#Find a Grave. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 21:17, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

Tiny Tim was a devout convert to Christianity. This should be included instead of mislabeling him as Jewish. ^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.148.149 (talk) 14:52, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/devout-or-deranged-6424977#:~:text=Though%20he's%20obviously%20an%20avowed,like%20to%20be%20John%20Holmes.&text=But%20until%20then%2C%20he'll,the%20Tulips.%22%20Tim%20chuckles.

Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2021

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Remove both Category:People on the autism spectrum and Category:People with Asperger syndrome; no evidence he was diagnosed with either. 2A02:C7F:7083:FD00:7D47:FE97:7697:3810 (talk) 14:02, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

done. Thanks! --Slp1 (talk) 15:24, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Under "Singles" in Discography at the end there should be added "There'll always be an England" recorded in UK and issued for sale in 78 rpm in the late 1960s. I have a copy of this recording bought new from a record shop at the time and sold in a plain brown paper cover sleeve. (James Fanning , 8th September 2021). — Preceding unsigned comment added by James Fanning (talk • contribs) 04:22, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tiny Tim: comedian

the opening paragraph doesn't mention that Tim was a comedian, in addition to musical talents. I happened to watch him do Great Balls of Fire. I didn't look to see if there's a section on this part of his career, but, obviously, there should be one, and it should be part of other topics, too. 47.201.23.23 (talk) 09:52, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For some reason, the "edit"

category on TINY TIM has been removed.So I am forced to write here. Please add this to the"Posthumous Release" category on the main page.

Released in 2021,a DVD by the Tiny Tim nationwide fam club and BIG BUCKS BURNETT,Tiny Tim's manager for the last 10 years of Tiny's life. On July 4,1994, a private performance at a Dallas,Texas home was filmed with hand-held cameras and recently released for public purchase(Itasca,Illinois company). Tiny Tim sings about a dozen patriotic songs, most of them obscure ones from the World War One era(1917-1918),he expresses some "unusual" political opinions, but his voice is clear as a bell. And he instantly responds to three audience requests. The entire DVD lasts 45 minutes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.23.5.11 (talk) 14:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Famous Australian artist

If Martin Sharp is famous then it is not necessary to announce his fame. If he needs to have it announced, then he is not actually famous. We don't need to announce Tiny Tim was famous because, in fact, he was. Can we say that about Martin Sharp? Why not just use Martin Sharp's name and allow the reader to decide is they think he is famous or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.254.12 (talk) 06:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2024

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The list of studio albums is missing one entry, and it should be added. "I Love Me" (Seeland, 1995). Here is the Discogs link with full credits: https://discogs.com/release/15606049-Tiny-Tim-I-Love-Me Georgeludwig (talk) 02:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: I Love Me is already listed in the Studio Albums section. See also WP:DISCOGS RudolfRed (talk) 03:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

“and was renowned for his wide vocal range in particular his far reaching falsetto” is not grammatically accurate. Lucas25709 (talk) 15:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First seen

The first time the general public got a look at Tiny Tim in action was the movie-length pilot for the TV show Ironside, aired March 28, 1967. He had an uncredited part as, what else, an “art house” performer. 96.237.184.133 (talk) 14:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Gilpatrick, Kristin (2002). Famous Wisconsin film stars. Badger Books Inc. Inc. p. 251. ISBN 978-1-878569-86-8.

[2] ttps://music.apple.com/mx/album/in-the-next-life-tiny-tim-harve-mann-lost-found-vol-3/1096172431

[3] ttps://shiptoshoremedia.com/products/tiny-tim-spirits-of-the-past-lost-found-volume-4-cd

[4] ttp://momentofilm.se/films/tiny-tim/

[5] ttps://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/devout-or-deranged-6424977#:~:text=Though%20he's%20obviously%20an%20avowed,like%20to%20be%20John%20Holmes.&text=But%20until%20then%2C%20he'll,the%20Tulips.%22%20Tim%20chuckles.

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